Problems with the King James Version

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves" (Matt. 7:19)

    All through the ages those who would reject Christ teaching and his church (The Roman Catholic Church). Have also had to reject the bible that Christ’ churches wrote, assemble, and protected for almost 2000 years.The canon, or list of approved New Testament books, was not approved by the Catholic Church until the 4^th century a festal epistle of St. Athanasius of Alexandria (A.D. 367), as well as a contemporary decree of Pope St. Damasusin Rome (A.D. 381).
    They must either reject or pervert and change the scripture to fit their own agenda. They take their example from the devil ( the father of all lies). We read in Matt. 4:1-11
    "At that time, Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert, to be tempted by the devil . . . Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him upon the pinnacle of the temple, and said to him: if thou be the Son of God, cast thy self down. For it is written: that he hath given his angels charge over thee."
    This prophecy was taken 90^th Psalm, but of the just man. Satan quotes this Psalm dishonestly to try to further his own goals.
    When King James’ I call together his hand pick 54 scholars (stooges) their goal was to alter the Bible so that it fit their Protestant view point. In process they made 30,000 changes to the word of "God." They took out seven books of sacred scripture. (Old Testament: Judith, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, Tobias, Wisdom, and the two books of the Machabees).
    There are many ways King James and his stooges deceitfully change sacred scripture. But, they fit in four general categories. First, is to reject the validity of whole books of sacred scripture. I go into this better little further along in this article. Second, they reject the ancient teaching and writing of Fathers o f the church, on sacred scripture and true meaning. These heretic try to negate their important by the theory of private interpretation of scripture. Which is streaky against the teaching of the Bible and Christ Church. (Sec. Peter 1:20)
    "Understanding that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation"
Third, these heretics perverted scripture by changing very texts. (The word of God) By adding or Subtracting to change or diminish the meaning here and their for their purposes. Fourth, is to make corrupt and false translations for they maintenance of their corrupt believes.
    The original 1611 King James venison had over 30,000 mistakes most of which have been corrected of these changes and bad translations. That many errors show a design and plan. Because it hard for 54 scholars to miss up that many times by accident. Either it was on purpose or they were 54 of the most incompetent scholars in history and they had no business even trying to translate the Bible. Here is a small listing of only few of them. They are thousands more. This author has found over 4,823 examples, all through I humble admit I have not even begun to scratch the surfaces. Here is a small list of a few:

Luke 1:28
( King James Version) Hail, "thou that art highly favored,"our Lord is with thee
(Should Be) Hail "full of grace," our Lord is with thee.
Genesis 3:15
(King James Version) "Its" shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt "bruise his heel."
(Should Be)  "She" shall bruise thy head in pieces and "thou shalt lie in wait for her heel."
James 5:16
(King James Version)"Confess" your "faults,"
(Should Be) Confess," therefore, your "sins" one to another
Corinthians 9:5
(King James Version) Instead of "woman", they translate "wife" here also
(Should Be) Have not we power to lead about a "woman", a sister
Acts 20:28
(King James Version) Where in the Holy Ghost hath made you "overseers, to feed the church" of God
(should Be) Take need to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you "bishops to rule the church" of God
Matthew 11:10
(King James Version) Instead of "angel" they say "messenger"
(should Be) For this is he of whom it is written, Behold, I send mine "angle" before thy face.
1 Timothy 9:14
(King James Version)For the word "graces" they say "gift" and " presbytery" the Greek word rather than the English word, "priesthood
(should Be) Neglect not the "graces" that is in thee, which is given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of "priesthood."
1 Timothy 3:8
(King James Version) Likewise must the "deacons" be "grave"
(should Be) "Deacons" in like manner "chaste," not double-tongued
James 5:14
(King James Version) Elders for "priests" here also
(should Be) Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the "priests" of the church, and let them pray over him
Acts 15:2
( King James Version) The "priest" they say her also "elders"
(should Be) They appointed that Paul and Barnabas should go up and certain other of the rest, to the apostles and "priests" unto Jerusalem.
Genesis 47:31
( King James Version) And "Israel bowed himself upon" the bed’s head
(should Be) "Israel adored God, turning to "the bed’s head.
Romans 11:4
(King James Version)I have left me seven thousand men that have not bowed their knees to "the image of" Baal
(should Be) I have left me seven thousand men that have not bowed their knees to Baal
Genesis 37:35
( King James Version) I will go down into the "grave"
(should Be) I will go down to my son into "hell" mourning
Genesis 42:38
(King James Version) For "hell" they also say "grave"
(should Be) You will bring down my grey hair with sorrow unto "hell"
3 King 2:6,9
(King James Version) "To the grave
(should Be) Unto "hell"
Hosea 6:14
( King James Version) O death, I will be thy "plagues;" O "grave", I will be thy destruction
(should Be) O death, I will be thy death; I will be thy sting, O "hell"
2 Timothy 4:8
(King James Version) For "justice" they translate to righteousness and for a "just Judge" they say a righteous judge
(should Be) Concerning the rest, there is laid up for me a crown of "just ice," which our Lord will render to me in that day, a just Judge
1 Timothy 5: 17
(King James Version) "Elders" also in this Bible
(should Be) The "priests" that rule will, let them be esteemed worthy of double honor
1 Timothy 5:19
(King James Version) Instead of "priest" they put "elder"
(should Be) Against a "priest" receive not accusation
Psalm 6:5
(King James Version) In the grave, who shall give thee thanks?
(should Be) But in "hell", who shall confess to thee?

James I, King or Queen of England

"His Majesty’s Royal Greatness... not only as to our king and sovereign but as to the principal mover and author of the work: humbly croving of your most sacred majesty." (Preface to the Authorized Version)

"He (King James I) disdained women and fawned unconscionably on his favorite men" (Encyclopedia Americana 1995)

"If any one lie with a man as with a woman, both have committed an, abomination let them be put to death: their blood be upon them" (Leviticus 20:13)

    Who was this dishonest king? Morally what kind of man was he? First of all we know he was queer. Not only do the historical reference prove this. Such as testament of Sir. John Oglander in 1617, before the privy council England.
    "The king is wondrous passionate, a lover of his favorites beyond the love of men to women. He is the chastise prince for women that ever was, for he would often swear that he never kissed any other woman than his own queen. I never yet saw any fond husband make so much or so great dalliance over his beautiful spouse as I have seen King James over his favorites, especially Buckingham." (Queen James and His Courtiers 1997)
    We also have a large number of love letters from Queen James to one of his lovers thee Earl of Buckingham, who was later promoted to the post of post of "gentleman of king bed chamber" (Encyclopedia American 1995)
    James use to end these letters calling Buckingham his only sweet child, his sweet child and wife, thy dear dad and husband and dear dad. (King James VI of Scotland I of England 1974) It is clear that their relationship parallels modern queer "father/son" associations. Most of these letters are so perverted and sexual that I being good Catholic could not print them here. But, I did print one of the few safer ones for a example (see page )
    There is also painting Queen James commissioned Daniel Mytens the elder to paint of him. It now hang in the national portrait gallery, London. For this portrait (one of his favorite) James pose in Queen Elizabeth’s coronation gown. Making King James to the best this authors knowledge the first "Royal Drag Queen" in English history.
    If this was not nauseating enough King James in 1617 address the honorable privy council with a official affirmation of his love for men Buckingham. This deplorable king try to justify his homosexuality with one the worst kinds of blastlefany. King James a official stated he believe Christ was queer.
    "I, James am neither a God nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men. You may be sure that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are her assembled. I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defeat, for Jesus Christ did the same and therefore I can not be blamed. Christ had his son John, and I have my George." (King James VI of Scotland I of England, Antonia Fraser,1974)

    This same man who was the principle able "mover" and "author" of this deceitful book, that some call "Bible." It is truly sin against God to call this wicked, evil king "most sacred" as the official preface does. This is another example of the horrible dishonesties of the writer and printer of this book threw the ages. They have been many attempt to changes or pervert sacred scripture and history to fit there lies. They have fooled many trusting and ignorant people. Many people are just tolazies to search for truth and what is right.
    Secondly, we know that King James also in his bid to consolidate his power over English people and church of England. ( This is reason of the making of his "Bible." Repressed the Protestants when it fit his purposes. King James, "repress the Protestants a strongly as have the Catholics." (Funk and Wagnalls New Encyclopedia) The use of torture was quite common under James rules. His political and economic blundering was so great it cause one French state man to laughing characterize King James as the "wisest fool in Christendom." ( Compton’s Interactive Encyclopedia 1994)

The First of Many Lies

King James Version "Translated out of the original tongues"

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor (Exodus 20:16)

    The reason that I put such enfencence on this lie out of thousands, is because it is this falsehood that the heretics use to varidify there bible. Most Protestants have never stopped and thought about this phase. What it really means it is cleverly deceptive way of saying that some of the papers in front of them were written in Greek or Hebrew. It does not say original "text and does not mean that they used the actual writing of the apostle. It doesn’t even say the papers they used were even scripture (Only written in Greek and Hebrew) for all we know they may have used a take out menu for the Jewish deicatestant down the street for there translation that would explain a lot of their mistakes. This statement is so cleverly vague it is deceptive as to its meaning. Many trusting Protestants ignorantly read a lot more into "original tongues" than is really being said.
    Now lets take a closer book at the accuracy of this statement. They list the original tongues as Hebrew and Greek lets look at the first one "Hebrew." There are two very different ancient Hebrew languages Biblical "Hebrew" and "Mishnaic Hebrew." James stooges convently forgot to say which one they used so let look at both. First we will look into the "Biblical Hebrew." It is the original language adopted by the IBLRI or Israelites from the 12 century to the second century B.C. . About that time the Israelites were using Aramaic parts of the rabbinical literature were originally written in Aramaic. About the second or third century B.C. seventy learned Jews assembly in Egypt to translate the biblical Hebrew and Aramaic scripture into Greek. In the third century B.C. the Old Testament began to be translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into Greek. ( Encyclopedia International 1982) This bible became known as the Septuagint from the Latin word Septuagint "seventy". They did this for several reason, biblical Hebrew have became out dated it is a more primitive language then the Greek or Aramaic. Also it was no longer understood by most of Jews. Since King James scholars do not mention that some of the text were written Aramaic and the fact that biblical Hebrew was nearly extinct (with the exception of some sacred documents) two hundred years before Christ was born. 1800 years before the King James Version was written. It is safe to say that the Hebrew , James hand pick stooges used was Mishamaic Hebrew or post biblical Hebrew. This is a later version of the original Hebrew strongly based on the Aramaic. With about Three hundred words borrowed from the Greek or Latin. "Greek and Latin words penetrated into Hebrew" (Encyclopedia International 1982) the point in is that the "original language" of the old Testament the original biblical Hebrew was an extinct and dead language time Christ was born. "The oldest existing Hebrew biblical texts date back only to the 10^th century"(The Pocket Bible Dictionary 1996) it is interesting to note that these writings are not written in biblical Hebrew but rather the "Mishnaic Hebrew" which included Vowel-points. Clearly contrary to what the King James version claims its could not have been translated from the original language biblical Hebrew.
    Secondly, it is important to note that the Hebrew scriptures (whether "biblical" or "Mishnaic") was NOT the translation chosen by Christ to use, Christ and his disciples used the Greek translation known as the Septuagint "Christ and his apostles used Septuagint frequently. In quoting from the Old Testament sometimes they cited the Septuagint verbatim or with unimportant verbal changes: There are about 350 quotations from the Old Testament in the gospel. The Acts, and the epistles, The Ethiopian eunuch whom Philip met was reading the Septuagint (Acts viii. 30-33)."( A Dictionary of the Bible, 1954 p.799)
    which coincides with the fact that other than gospel Matthew the new Testament was exclusively written in Greek. Which brings up the next question why would the 54 translators to the King James Version wish to use any translation of scriptures not used by Christ?
    This brings us to the next question why did they choose to use 10^th century "Mishnaic Hebrew texts instead of the 5^th century Greek text ? This explains why in many places of the original King James Version the New Testament quotes do not match up with the Old Testament quotes, leading to much confusion and problems.

The Missing Books

"The New Testament quotes from the longer Septuagint Greek [which did contain the Deutero-Canonical books, Tb, Jdt, Wis, Sir, Bar, 1Mc, 2Mc, and parts of Est and Dn. Encyclopedic Dictionary of the Bible 1963, 310] Canon no less than 350 times." (Background To The Bible, An introduction to Scripture Study 1978.)

(The Books of The Bible 1997)"The original 1611 King James Version contained the Deutero Canonical books it was not until the 1629 revision that they came in two dispute"

    Protestants generally refer to these seven books as "Apocrypha" meaning "hidden" in the ancient Greek Catholics refer to these books as "Deutero-Canonical" or "second Canon". The truth is these books for by no means "hidden" for even Protestant scholars are forced to admit that they were part of the Septuagint Canon, except in Canon at the time of the Christ "At first the LXX [Septuagint] was highly regarded by all the Jews; it spread from Egypt to the whole Jewish Diaspora and became the official Bible Greek-speaking Judaism. The New Testament writers, writing in Greek for Greek-speaking people, usually quoted from the Old Testament. according to the LXX [Septuagint]. Naturally, therefore, the LXX also became the official Old Testament of the early Church, and it is still the official Old Testament in of the Greek Church, of both the Unite and the Schismatic Christians. However, after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., when Jewish opposition to Christianity became more pronounced and Judaism crystallized in its rabbinical form, the LXX [Septuagint], though originally made by Jews for Jews, was frowned on by the Jews as a quasi-Christian book."(Encyclopedic Dictionary of the Bible 1963). Not only was the Septuagint the Bible of choice among the 1^st century Jews but the chosen scriptures of the 12 apostles "The earliest New Teastament documents are Paul's. He used Septuagint citations; therefore he knew of the Deutero Canonical. One supposes that Matthew, Mark, and John also knew the whole Septuagint. Luke is so familiar with it, that he is able closely to imitate its style. It is from these writers that we have the words of Jesus."(Catholic Information Network 1996). More than two thirds of the Old Testament quotations in the New are from the Septuagint. Yet the apostles nowhere told their converts to avoid seven books (Baruch, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, and the Wisdom of Solomon, plus portions of Esther and Daniel) of it. Like the Jews all over the world who used the Septuagint, the early Christians accepted the books they found in it. They knew that the apostles would not mislead them and endanger their souls by putting false scriptures in their hands -- especially without warning them against them. But the apostles did not merely place the Deutero Canonical. in the hands of their converts as part of the Septuagint. They regularly referred to the Deutero Canonical. in their writings. For example, Hebrews 11 encourages us to emulate the heroes of the Old Testament and in the Old Testament "Women received their dead by resurrection. Some were tortured, refusing to accept release, that they might rise again to a better life" (Heb. 11:35).
    The Deutero Canonical books were part of every Christian Bible Canon up until the ^16th century. Even if the 54 scholars translated the original 1611 King James version of the Bible included these books in their cannon. It was not until 11 years later during the 1623 re-vision of this Bible that these books were removed. "The Apocrypha consists of the books that are found in the Greek version of the Jewish Bible—the Septuagint, the earliest complete version of the Bible was possess—but that were not included in the final, Canonical version of the 90 A.D. Hebrew Bible. For this reason, they were called "Apocrypha," the hidden or secret book, and while they formed part of the original King James Version of 1611." (The Apocrypha, by Edgar J. Goodspeed, copyrights: 1989,1959,1938). This forces us to make one of Three observations about the King James version of the Bible, either:

1) The original 54 scholars who translate the King James Version were highly and incompetent and clearly prove their ignorance of scripture by adding seven books to the Bible which do not belong.

OR

2) The revisionists the reformed the King James Version  in 1623 were highly and incompetent a clearly prove their ignorance of scriptures by removing seven sacred books of the Bible.

OR

3) Neither the original 54 scholars or the revisionists had any idea of what they were during and never should have attempted to play with Holy Scripture.

    Whichever observation you wish to believe it forces us to doubt the authenticity and accuracy of this English translation. it also forces us to classify the King James Version of the Bible has nothing more than a Miss-Translated.

[SOURCE: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/kjversion.htm]

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

HOW THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION DELETES WHOLE VERSES!

Based on the New International Version, 1978 edition 

WHOLE Bible verses deleted in the NIV

The following WHOLE verses have been removed in the NIV--many were moved from the text to a footnote...over 40 IN ALL!!! It is interesting to note that most of these verses were also eliminated by the translators of the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible "New World Translation".

A TYPICAL EXAMPLE (Matthew 15):

27. "Yes, Lord," she said, "but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table."
29. Jesus left there and went along the Sea of Galilee. Then he went up on a mountainside and sat down.
(New International Version, 1978 edition)

Matthew 12:47 -- removed in the footnotes
 
Matthew 17:21 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."
 
Matthew 18:11 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost."
 
Matthew 21:44 -- removed in the footnotes
 
Matthew 23:14 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation."
 
Mark 7:16 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear."
 
Mark 9:44 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
 
Mark 9:46 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."
 
Mark 11:26 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses."
 
Mark 15:28 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors."
 
Mark 16:9-20 (all 12 verses) -- There is a line separating the last 12 verses of Mark from the main text. Right under the line it says: [The two most reliable early manuscripts do not have Mark 16:9-20] (NIV, 1978 ed.).
 
Luke 17:36 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left."
 
Luke 22:44 -- removed in the footnotes
 
Luke 22:43 -- removed in the footnotes
 
Luke 23:17 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"(For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)"
 
John 5:4 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had."
 
John 7:53-8:11 -- removed in the footnotes
 
Acts 8:37 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God."
 
Acts 15:34 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"Notwithstanding it pleased Silas to abide there still."
 
Acts 24:7 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands,"
 
Acts 28:29 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves."
 
Romans 16:24 -- COMPLETELY removed. What are you NIV readers missing?
"The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen."
 
I John 5:7 -- Vitally important phrase COMPLETELY removed. In the NIV it says,

"For there are three that testify:"

Compare the NIV reading with the following Jehovah's Witness reading--

"For there are three witness bearers,"

What are you NIV readers missing? What does the real Bible say?

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is one of the GREATEST verses testifying of the trinity. That is why the Jehovah's Witnesses leave it out. They do not believe in the trinity and they do not believe that Jesus is God. Why does the NIV leave it out...? Whole books have been written on the manuscript evidence that supports inclusion of this verse in the Bible. Reader, do you believe in the triunity of God? If so, then this deletion should offend you. These protestants played around with the Bible and it isn't funny.

[SOURCE:  http://www.catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/niverses.htm ]

My Catholic Bible: Douay Rheims Bible

I had been with other versions of the Bible, but I start looking for a Bible without blemishes of any Protestant Reformation. 


The Douay Rheims Bible is the English translation of the Latin Vulgate. This Bible is sometime compared to the King James Version. 


Not like the King James Version, where almost all Catholic trace were erased, this Bible preserve the Catholic flavors. In addition to that the Douay Rheims was printed much earlier than the KJV. 
I now use this Bible during addressing a polemic questions coming from Protestant Apologist. Here are some the difference of the DRB and KJV:



Luke 1:28
( King James Version) Hail, "thou that art highly favored,"our Lord is with thee
(Should Be) Hail "full of grace," our Lord is with thee.
Genesis 3:15
(King James Version) "Its" shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt "bruise his heel."
(Should Be)  "She" shall bruise thy head in pieces and "thou shalt lie in wait for her heel."
James 5:16
(King James Version)"Confess" your "faults,"
(Should Be) Confess," therefore, your "sins" one to another
Corinthians 9:5
(King James Version) Instead of "woman", they translate "wife" here also
(Should Be) Have not we power to lead about a "woman", a sister
Acts 20:28
(King James Version) Where in the Holy Ghost hath made you "overseers, to feed the church" of God
(should Be) Take need to yourselves, and to the whole flock, wherein the Holy Ghost hath placed you "bishops to rule the church" of God
Matthew 11:10
(King James Version) Instead of "angel" they say "messenger"
(should Be) For this is he of whom it is written, Behold, I send mine "angle" before thy face.
1 Timothy 9:14
(King James Version)For the word "graces" they say "gift" and " presbytery" the Greek word rather than the English word, "priesthood
(should Be) Neglect not the "graces" that is in thee, which is given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of "priesthood."
1 Timothy 3:8
(King James Version) Likewise must the "deacons" be "grave"
(should Be) "Deacons" in like manner "chaste," not double-tongued
James 5:14
(King James Version) Elders for "priests" here also
(should Be) Is any man sick among you? Let him bring in the "priests" of the church, and let them pray over him
Acts 15:2
( King James Version) The "priest" they say her also "elders"
(should Be) They appointed that Paul and Barnabas should go up and certain other of the rest, to the apostles and "priests" unto Jerusalem.
Genesis 47:31
( King James Version) And "Israel bowed himself upon" the bed’s head
(should Be) "Israel adored God, turning to "the bed’s head.
Romans 11:4
(King James Version)I have left me seven thousand men that have not bowed their knees to "the image of" Baal
(should Be) I have left me seven thousand men that have not bowed their knees to Baal
Genesis 37:35
( King James Version) I will go down into the "grave"
(should Be) I will go down to my son into "hell" mourning
Genesis 42:38
(King James Version) For "hell" they also say "grave"
(should Be) You will bring down my grey hair with sorrow unto "hell"
3 King 2:6,9
(King James Version) "To the grave
(should Be) Unto "hell"
Hosea 6:14
( King James Version) O death, I will be thy "plagues;" O "grave", I will be thy destruction
(should Be) O death, I will be thy death; I will be thy sting, O "hell"
2 Timothy 4:8
(King James Version) For "justice" they translate to righteousness and for a "just Judge" they say a righteous judge
(should Be) Concerning the rest, there is laid up for me a crown of "just ice," which our Lord will render to me in that day, a just Judge
1 Timothy 5: 17
(King James Version) "Elders" also in this Bible
(should Be) The "priests" that rule will, let them be esteemed worthy of double honor
1 Timothy 5:19
(King James Version) Instead of "priest" they put "elder"
(should Be) Against a "priest" receive not accusation
Psalm 6:5
(King James Version) In the grave, who shall give thee thanks?
(should Be) But in "hell", who shall confess to thee?

RESOURCES: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/kjversion.htm

See what happen? Pacquiao lose due to Born-Again Heretic's Bible Study..... That what happen when you forget to pray the Rosary..... Burn the heretic Bibles!

CONCLUSION

The online debate though in formal, only shows that there are still a need to spread Catholicism 'The unspoiled truth'. 

Filipinos must learn that the Rosary is part of the Filipino culture, not just as a part of religious practice. Pacquiao, who seems lost the hope tries to compensate it with mere faith alone. For me, Pacquiao is not a hero. He deserve a champion's congratulation even though he lost, but to call him a "Hero'? Nope.

A hero should offer his life for the country....not a title. Though he lost he still gain wealth. The Filipino people don't.

The Bible study that Pacquiao is attending to is not Catholic. How I wish he ask for the local Parish or Diocese to assist him. I am sure he will not be disappointed, especially there are handful of Lay theologians that can help him.

Maybe a misguided individual suggested a experimental group for him. Goodbye Pacquiao.... I hope this spiritual journey you are in, will guide you back to the real Christian belief. Not of Bible Alone, nor Faith Alone....but Faith working through love...

Now the debate run so well. Imagine my niece who I think an Atheist, tromping a old school mate who is understandably Protestant, working together against a solely Catholic Defender....though receive a shoulder tap from an old office mate. (Who is by the way a Catholic Apologist in a making).

See what happen? Pacquiao lose due to Born-Again Heretic's Bible Study..... That what happen when you forget to pray the Rosary..... Burn the heretic Bibles!

This facebook debate happen just after Manny Pacquiao loses his title. 

 Gerran Navarro Its not about religion Archie... its not about traditional prayer using rosary... when you pray, you pray from the heart and GOD LOOKS ON YOUR HEART NOT ON YOUR MEMORIZED PRAYER...

 Archie Gene Gallardo It's all about Apostolic Tradition and not man made religion

 Gerran Navarro Jesus did not shown any scene in the bible praying using the Rosary... He even taught us how to pray. I hope you know your BIBLE which is written and by man.

 Archie Gene Gallardo Matt. 6:7 - Jesus teaches, "do not heap up empty phrases" in prayer. Protestants use this verse to criticize various Catholic forms of prayer which repeat phrases, such as litanies and the Rosary. But Jesus' focus in this instruction is on the "vain," and not on the "repetition."

Matt. 26:44 - for example, Jesus prayed a third time in the garden of Gethsemane, saying the exact same words again. It is not the repetition that is the issue. It's the vanity. God looks into our heart, not solely at our words.

Luke 18:13 - the tax collector kept beating his breast and praying "God be merciful to me, a sinner." This repetitive prayer was pleasing to God because it was offered with a sincere and repentant heart.

Acts 10:2,4 - Cornelius prayed constantly to the Lord and his prayers ascended as a memorial before God.

Rom. 1:9 - Paul says that he always mentions the Romans in his prayers without ceasing.

Rom. 12:12 - Paul commands us to be constant in prayer. God looks at what is in our heart, not necessarily how we choose our words.

1 Thess. 5:17 - Paul commands us to pray constantly. Good repetition is different than vain repetition.

Rev. 4:8 - the angels pray day and night without cessation the same words "Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty." This is repetitious prayer that is pleasing to God.

Psalm 136 - in this Psalm, the phrase "For His steadfast love endures forever" is more repetitious than any Catholic prayer, and it is God's divine Word.

Dan. 3:35-66 - the phrase "Bless the Lord" is similarly offered repeatedly, and mirrors Catholic litanies .

 Archie Gene Gallardo Where do you read in the Bible that you should read everything in the Bible? Does the word "Bible" in the Bible? 


Archie Gene Gallardo Remember and read your Protestant Pillar so called " Sola Scriptura" 2Timothy 3:16....and let me discuss it for you..
2 Tim. 3:14 - Protestants usually use 2 Tim. 3:16-17 to prove that the Bible is the sole authority of God's word. But examining these texts disproves their claim. Here, Paul appeals to apostolic tradition right before the Protestants' often quoted verse 2 Tim. 3:16-17. Thus, there is an appeal to tradition before there is an appeal to the Scriptures, and Protestants generally ignore this fact.

2 Tim. 3:15 - Paul then appeals to the sacred writings of Scripture referring to the Old Testament Scriptures with which Timothy was raised (not the New Testament which was not even compiled at the time of Paul's teaching). This verse also proves that one can come to faith in Jesus Christ without the New Testament.

2 Tim. 3:16 - this verse says that Scripture is "profitable" for every good work, but not exclusive. The word "profitable" is "ophelimos" in Greek. "Ophelimos" only means useful, which underscores that Scripture is not mandatory or exclusive. Protestants unbiblically argue that profitable means exclusive.

2 Tim. 3:16 - further, the verse "all Scripture" uses the words "pasa graphe" which actually means every (not all) Scripture. This means every passage of Scripture is useful. Thus, the erroneous Protestant reading of "pasa graphe" would mean every single passage of Scripture is exclusive. This would mean Christians could not only use "sola Matthew," or "sola Mark," but could rely on one single verse from a Gospel as the exclusive authority of God's word. This, of course, is not true and even Protestants would agree. Also, "pasa graphe" cannot mean "all of Scripture" because there was no New Testament canon to which Paul could have been referring, unless Protestants argue that the New Testament is not being included by Paul.

2 Tim. 3:16 - also, these inspired Old Testament Scriptures Paul is referring to included the deuterocanonical books which the Protestants removed from the Bible 1,500 years later.

2 Tim. 3:17 - Paul's reference to the "man of God" who may be complete refers to a clergyman, not a layman. It is an instruction to a bishop of the Church. So, although Protestants use it to prove their case, the passage is not even relevant to most of the faithful.

2 Tim. 3:17 - further, Paul's use of the word "complete" for every good work is "artios" which simply means the clergy is "suitable" or "fit." Also, artios does not describe the Scriptures, it describes the clergyman. So, Protestants cannot use this verse to argue the Scriptures are complete.

James 1:4 - steadfastness also makes a man "perfect (teleioi) and complete (holoklepoi), lacking nothing." This verse is important because "teleioi"and "holoklepoi" are much stronger words than "artios," but Protestants do not argue that steadfastness is all one needs to be a Christian.

Titus 3:8 - good deeds are also "profitable" to men. For Protestants especially, profitable cannot mean "exclusive" here.

2 Tim 2:21- purity is also profitable for "any good work" ("pan ergon agathon"). This wording is the same as 2 Tim. 3:17, which shows that the Scriptures are not exclusive, and that other things (good deeds and purity) are also profitable to men.

Col. 4:12 - prayer also makes men "fully assured." No where does Scripture say the Christian faith is based solely on a book.

2 Tim. 3:16-17 - Finally, if these verses really mean that Paul was teaching sola Scriptura to the early Church, then why in 1 Thess. 2:13 does Paul teach that he is giving Revelation from God orally? Either Paul is contradicting his own teaching on sola Scriptura, or Paul was not teaching sola Scriptura in 2 Tim. 3:16-17. This is a critical point which Protestants cannot reconcile with their sola Scriptura position.June 10 at 2:54pm ·

 Gerran Navarro wowowow... very theological... well were just talking about prayer... with all your biblical sites it doeS not says pray the rosary or hail mary... IS THAT ADDED PRAYER OTHER THAN OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. IS THAT A MAN-MADE PRAYER? you quoted each biblical verses but doesn't explain the whole context of it. Very out of context. Lets focus with Matt 6 - God gave an example on how to pray right... or instruction as you said - did Jesus said this is what you will pray... He only said that, this is HOW YOU SHOULD PRAY... Matt 6:7-8 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. - BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WHAT YOU NEED BEFORE YOU ASK HIM. Its very clear Archie. I'm not talking about other language and dont need to translate it in hebrew word...

• Ady Quiambao tito.. san nakalagay sa bible ang rosary?

  June 10 at 3:15pm ·
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  Gerran Navarro Hope you understand well what 2Tim 3:16

  June 10 at 3:16pm · · 1
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  Gerran Navarro also read Reveletion 22:19

  June 10 at 3:16pm · · 1
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  Ady Quiambao boom!!

  June 10 at 3:19pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎"and if any one takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book."
  
  Revelation 22:19
  
  Amen! Remember the Bible (Septuagint) had 73 books.....your Bible probably had only 66... because you follow the Masoretic text...redone by the Jews and Luther approves it....

  June 10 at 3:25pm ·
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  Jyrel Rey Cruz Nice and true. Let's all pray the rosary.

  June 10 at 3:36pm via mobile · · 1
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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎@Ady..... wala....so kung wala pala dun wag mong paniwalaan....eh yung Bible....per word na saan? Pero ang Rosary's mysteries na sa Bible ba? Yung Anunciation; yung Crucifixion? check mo nga?

  June 10 at 3:37pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎@Ady sino ba ang nag canonize ng Bible? Protestant? at oo nga pala saan na kasulat na 27 New Testament ang dapat nan dun? may Holy Table of content ba?

  June 10 at 3:40pm · · 1
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  Jyrel Rey Cruz Agree and yes nabasa ko yan :-) it seems we have smthng in common. U knew ur faith very well

  June 10 at 3:43pm via mobile · · 1
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  Gerran Navarro Sometimes we tend to be judgmental because of just one failure (like Pacman's fight) and pointing fingers and blaming because he changed his RELIGION? Do you think cockfighting, casino and hooking up with alot of girls is much better rather than BIBLE-STUDY. And not praying the rosary can cause failure? edi sana marami nang nagfail.... poor mind people kaya nga tinatawag na ipokrito ni Jesus ang mga HIGH PRIEST kasi ang kitid ng isip. I'm not praying the rosary but I'm always at peace because I pray with all my heart and with all my soul and with all my mind. As I remember Manny was praying the rosary then and it was on his hands every time he had a fight showing that he was truly very religious but then doing these sins over and over making his life and his family miserable... Well I'm having the doubt not to pray the rosary... I'll rather fail because I chose God's command rather than doing that traditional prayer... btw, ang pagiging judgmental Archie ay kasalanan.... sana natutunan mo din yan sa Roman Catholic... pwede mo din hanapin yan sa biblia...

  June 10 at 3:51pm · · 1
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  Ady Quiambao sino rin ba nag canonize sa mga saints diba pope? sino rin nag tatag na catholic diba romans na pumatay kay Cristo at sa mga early Christians... ginamit lang nila catholic religion pra mging desiplinado mga conquered land nila..

  June 10 at 3:51pm · · 1
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  Ady Quiambao eto Top 10 Evil Popes.. http://thelistcafe.com/top-10-most-evil-popes

  

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  June 10 at 3:52pm · · 1 ·
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  Ady Quiambao ‎"The Pope, who is the bishop of Rome and the Vicar of Christ on earth … is the visible head of the whole Catholic Church … Who was the first Pope? St. Peter, who was made Pope by Jesus Christ Himself … Did Peter's authority die with him? No, it was handed down to a man named Linus, and after he died, it was handed down to another, and so on, during the past 2000 years" - Catechism, pp. 55,56. Below the Pope in the church hierarchy are various levels of cardinals, bishops, priests, etc.
  "The law of the [Roman] Church forbids persons living in the married state to be ordained, and persons in holy orders [priests, etc.], to marry" - Dictionary, p. 132.
  But the Bible teaches:
  1. Jesus is the Head, foundation, and chief shepherd of the church (Eph. 1:22,23; Col. 1:18; Matt. 28:18; I Cor. 3:11; Acts 4:10,11; I Pet. 2:3-8; John 10:11,14; I Pet. 5:4; Heb. 13:20). For the church to have two heads (Jesus and the Pope) would be spiritual adultery, like a woman having two husbands (cf. Eph. 5:22-24 to Rom. 7:2,3).

  June 10 at 4:02pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo I agree on some points.....but you are still wrong....

  June 11 at 12:21am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Addensum....Check your Bible...and let me explain clearly...(Mag-English na ako kase hirap na yata ako managalog)
  
  Matt. 10:1,40 - Jesus declares to His apostles, "he who receives you, receives Me, and he who rejects you, rejects Me and the One who sent Me." Jesus freely gives His authority to the apostles in order for them to effectively convert the world.
  
  Matt. 16:19; 18:18 - the apostles are given Christ's authority to make visible decisions on earth that will be ratified in heaven. God raises up humanity in Christ by exalting his chosen leaders and endowing them with the authority and grace they need to bring about the conversion of all. Without a central authority in the Church, there would be chaos (as there is in Protestantism).
  
  Luke 9:1; 10:19 - Jesus gives the apostles authority over the natural and the supernatural (diseases, demons, serpents, and scorpions).
  
  Luke 10:16 - Jesus tells His apostles, "he who hears you, hears Me." When we hear the bishops' teaching on the faith, we hear Christ Himself.
  
  Luke 22:29 - the Father gives the kingdom to the Son, and the Son gives the kingdom to the apostles. The gift is transferred from the Father to the Son to the apostles.
  
  Num 16:28 - the Father's authority is transferred to Moses. Moses does not speak on his own. This is a real transfer of authority.
  
  John 5:30 - similarly, Jesus as man does nothing of His own authority, but He acts under the authority of the Father.
  
  John 7:16-17 - Jesus as man states that His authority is not His own, but from God. He will transfer this authority to other men.
  
  John 8:28 - Jesus says He does nothing on His own authority. Similarly, the apostles will do nothing on their own authority. Their authority comes from God.
  
  John 12:49 - The father's authority is transferred to the Son. The Son does not speak on his own. This is a transfer of divine authority.
  
  John 13:20 - Jesus says, "he who receives anyone who I send, receives Me." He who receives the apostles, receives Christ Himself. He who rejects the apostles and their successors, rejects Christ.
  
  John 14:10 - Jesus says the Word He speaks is not His own authority, but from the Father. The gift is from the Father to Jesus to the apostles.
  
  John 16:14-15 - what the Father has, the Son has, and the Son gives it to the apostles. The authority is not lessened or mitigated.
  
  John 17:18; 20:21 - as the Father sends the Son, the Son sends the apostles. The apostles have divinely appointed authority.
  
  Acts 20:28 - the apostles are shepherds and guardians appointed by the Holy Spirit / 1 Peter 2:25 - Jesus is the Shepherd and Guardian. The apostles, by the power of the Spirit, share Christ's ministry and authority.
  
  Jer. 23:1-8; Ezek. 34:1-10 - the shepherds must shepherd the sheep, or they will be held accountable by God.
  
  Eph. 2:20 - the Christian faith is built upon the foundation of the apostles. The word "foundation" proves that it does not die with apostles, but carries on through succession.
  
  Eph. 2:20; Rev. 21:9,14 - the words "household," "Bride of the Lamb," the "new Jerusalem" are all metaphors for the Church whose foundation is the apostles.

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  Archie Gene Gallardo I forgot the above text were the scripture or verses that pertains that 'Ordains leader Share in Jesus Ministry....

  June 11 at 12:28am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Here are the verses that stands and affirms the Catholic AUTHORITY THROUGH ORDINATION....
  Acts 1:15-26 - the first thing Peter does after Jesus ascends into heaven is implement apostolic succession. Matthias is ordained with full apostolic authority. Only the Catholic Church can demonstrate an unbroken apostolic lineage to the apostles in union with Peter through the sacrament of ordination and thereby claim to teach with Christ's own authority.
  
  Acts 1:20 - a successor of Judas is chosen. The authority of his office (his "bishopric") is respected notwithstanding his egregious sin. The necessity to have apostolic succession in order for the Church to survive was understood by all. God never said, "I'll give you leaders with authority for about 400 years, but after the Bible is compiled, you are all on your own."
  
  Acts 1:22 - literally, "one must be ordained" to be a witness with us of His resurrection. Apostolic ordination is required in order to teach with Christ's authority.
  
  Acts 6:6 - apostolic authority is transferred through the laying on of hands (ordination). This authority has transferred beyond the original twelve apostles as the Church has grown.
  
  Acts 9:17-19 - even Paul, who was directly chosen by Christ, only becomes a minister after the laying on of hands by a bishop. This is a powerful proof-text for the necessity of sacramental ordination in order to be a legitimate successor of the apostles.
  
  Acts 13:3 - apostolic authority is transferred through the laying on of hands (ordination). This authority must come from a Catholic bishop.
  
  Acts 14:23 - the apostles and newly-ordained men appointed elders to have authority throughout the Church.
  
  Acts 15:22-27 - preachers of the Word must be sent by the bishops in union with the Church. We must trace this authority to the apostles.
  
  2 Cor. 1:21-22 - Paul writes that God has commissioned certain men and sealed them with the Holy Spirit as a guarantee.
  
  Col 1:25 - Paul calls his position a divine "office." An office has successors. It does not terminate at death. Or it's not an office. See also Heb. 7:23 – an office continues with another successor after the previous office-holder’s death.
  
  1 Tim. 3:1 - Paul uses the word "episcopoi" (bishop) which requires an office. Everyone understood that Paul's use of episcopoi and office meant it would carry on after his death by those who would succeed him.
  
  1 Tim. 4:14 - again, apostolic authority is transferred through the laying on of hands (ordination).
  
  1 Tim. 5:22 - Paul urges Timothy to be careful in laying on the hands (ordaining others). The gift of authority is a reality and cannot be used indiscriminately.
  
  2 Tim. 1:6 - Paul again reminds Timothy the unique gift of God that he received through the laying on of hands.
  
  2 Tim. 4:1-6 - at end of Paul's life, Paul charges Timothy with the office of his ministry . We must trace true apostolic lineage back to a Catholic bishop.
  
  2 Tim. 2:2 - this verse shows God's intention is to transfer authority to successors (here, Paul to Timothy to 3rd to 4th generation). It goes beyond the death of the apostles.
  
  Titus 1:5; Luke 10:1 - the elders of the Church are appointed and hold authority. God has His children participate in Christ's work.
  
  1 John 4:6 - whoever knows God listens to us (the bishops and the successors to the apostles). This is the way we discern truth and error (not just by reading the Bible and interpreting it for ourselves).
  
  Exodus 18:25-26 - Moses appoints various heads over the people of God. We see a hierarchy, a transfer of authority and succession.
  
  Exodus 40:15 - the physical anointing shows that God intended a perpetual priesthood with an identifiable unbroken succession.
  
  Numbers 3:3 - the sons of Aaron were formally "anointed" priests in "ordination" to minister in the priests' "office."
  
  Numbers 16:40 - shows God's intention of unbroken succession within His kingdom on earth. Unless a priest was ordained by Aaron and his descendants, he had no authority.
  
  Numbers 27:18-20 - shows God's intention that, through the "laying on of hands," one is commissioned and has authority.
  
  Deut. 34:9 - Moses laid hands upon Joshua, and because of this, Joshua was obeyed as successor, full of the spirit of wisdom.
  
  Sirach 45:15 - Moses ordains Aaron and anoints him with oil. There is a transfer of authority through formal ordination.

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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎@Ady....People or person in office especially in the Chair of Peter as Vicar of Christ never had been swallowed by evil...like His promise in Mt. 16:18-19.....though some not good Pope ruled the Church they could not change anything within the Church....After the Bad comes the Good.....

  June 11 at 12:33am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo So @Ady the next verses described how Jesus opt us to obey the Apostolic Tradition....
  Acts 5:13 - the people acknowledged the apostles' special authority and did not dare take it upon themselves.
  
  Acts 15:6,24; 16:4 - the teaching authority is granted to the apostles and their successors. This teaching authority must be traced to the original apostles, or the authority is not sanctioned by Christ.
  
  Rom. 15:16 – Paul says he is a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the offering of the Gentiles may be acceptable. This refers to the ministerial priesthood of the ordained which is distinguishable from the universal priesthood of the laity. Notice the Gentiles are the “sacrifice” and Paul does the “offering.”
  
  1 Cor. 5:3-5; 16:22; 1 Tim. 1:20; Gal 1:8; Matt 18:17 – these verses show the authority of the elders to excommunicate / anathemize ("deliver to satan").
  
  2 Cor. 2:17 - Paul says the elders are not just random peddlers of God's word. They are actually commissioned by God. It is not self-appointed authority.
  
  2 Cor. 3:6 – Paul says that certain men have been qualified by God to be ministers of a New Covenant. This refers to the ministerial priesthood of Christ handed down the ages through sacramental ordination.
  
  2 Cor. 5:20 - Paul says we are "ambassadors" for Christ. This means that the apostles and their successors share an actual participation in Christ's mission, which includes healing, forgiving sins, and confecting the sacraments.
  
  2 Cor. 10:6 – in reference to the ordained, Paul says that they are ready to punish every disobedience. The Church has the authority excommunicate those who disobey her.
  
  2 Cor. 10:8 - Paul acknowledges his authority over God's people which the Lord gave to build up the Church.
  
  1 Thess. 5:12-13 - Paul charges the members of the Church to respect those who have authority over them.
  
  2 Thess. 3:14 - Paul says if a person does not obey what he has provided in his letter, have nothing to do with him.
  
  1 Tim. 5:17 - Paul charges the members of the Church to honor the appointed elders (“priests”) of the Church.
  
  Titus 2:15 - Paul charges Timothy to exhort and reprove with all authority, which he received by the laying on of hands.
  
  Heb. 12:9 – in the context of spiritual discipline, the author says we have had earthly fathers (referring to the ordained leaders) to discipline us and we respected them.
  
  Heb. 13:7,17 - Paul charges the members of the Church to remember and obey their leaders who have authority over their souls.
  
  1 Peter 2:18 - Peter charges the servants to be submissive to their masters whether kind and gentle or overbearing.
  
  1 Peter 5:5; Jude 8 - Peter and Jude charge the members of the Church to be subject to their elders.
  
  2 Peter 2:10 - Peter warns the faithful about despising authority. He is referring to the apostolic authority granted to them by Christ.
  
  3 John 9 - John points out that Diotrephes does not acknowledge John's apostolic authority and declares that this is evil.
  
  Deut. 17:10-13 - the Lord commands His faithful Israel to obey the priests that He puts in charge, and do to all that they direct and instruct. The Lord warns that those who do not obey His priests shall die.
  
  Num. 16:1-35 - Korah incited a "protestant" rebellion against God's chosen Moses in an effort to confuse the distinction between the ministerial and universal offices of priesthood, and Korah and his followers perished. (This effort to blind the distinctions between the priests and the laity is still pursued by dissidents today.)
  
  Sirach 7:29-30 - with all your soul fear the Lord and honor His priests, love your Maker and do not forsake His ministers. God is not threatened by the authority He gives His children! God, as our Loving Father, invites us to participate in His plan of salvation with His Son Jesus. Without authority in the Church, there is error, chaos and confusion.

  June 11 at 12:34am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎Ady Quiambao I hope you read the long explanation I just wrote....Sorry if I reply late nasa wake kase ako ng Biyenan ko....Any way the next verses why we believe in the Primacy of Peter....
  
  In Mt 16: 18-19 - "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.
  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

  June 11 at 12:41am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Addendum....the above verse gave Peter and the Church the power to bind and loose....that is the same power when the Catholic Church canonize the 27 books of the New testament....without that power and the Primacy of Peter you can not have the New Testament....

  June 11 at 12:43am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo The following Verses shows that Peter is the Prime of all Apostles;
  Matt. to Rev. - Peter is mentioned 155 times and the rest of apostles combined are only mentioned 130 times. Peter is also always listed first except in 1 Cor. 3:22 and Gal. 2:9 (which are obvious exceptions to the rule).
  
  Matt. 10:2; Mark 1:36; 3:16; Luke 6:14-16; Acts 1:3; 2:37; 5:29 - these are some of many examples where Peter is mentioned first among the apostles.
  
  Matt. 14:28-29 - only Peter has the faith to walk on water. No other man in Scripture is said to have the faith to walk on water. This faith ultimately did not fail.
  
  Matt. 16:16, Mark 8:29; John 6:69 - Peter is first among the apostles to confess the divinity of Christ.
  
  Matt. 16:17 - Peter alone is told he has received divine knowledge by a special revelation from God the Father.
  
  Matt. 16:18 - Jesus builds the Church only on Peter, the rock, with the other apostles as the foundation and Jesus as the Head.
  
  Matt. 16:19 - only Peter receives the keys, which represent authority over the Church and facilitate dynastic succession to his authority.
  
  Matt. 17:24-25 - the tax collector approaches Peter for Jesus' tax. Peter is the spokesman for Jesus. He is the Vicar of Christ.
  
  Matt. 17:26-27 - Jesus pays the half-shekel tax with one shekel, for both Jesus and Peter. Peter is Christ's representative on earth.
  
  Matt. 18:21 - in the presence of the disciples, Peter asks Jesus about the rule of forgiveness. One of many examples where Peter takes a leadership role among the apostles in understanding Jesus' teachings.
  
  Matt. 19:27 - Peter speaks on behalf of the apostles by telling Jesus that they have left everything to follow Him.
  
  Mark 10:28 - here also, Peter speaks on behalf of the disciples by declaring that they have left everything to follow Him.
  
  Mark 11:21 - Peter speaks on behalf of the disciples in remembering Jesus' curse on the fig tree.
  
  Mark 14:37 - at Gethsemane, Jesus asks Peter, and no one else, why he was asleep. Peter is accountable to Jesus for his actions on behalf of the apostles because he has been appointed by Jesus as their leader.
  
  Mark 16:7 - Peter is specified by an angel as the leader of the apostles as the angel confirms the resurrection of Christ.
  
  Luke 5:3 – Jesus teaches from Peter’s boat which is metaphor for the Church. Jesus guides Peter and the Church into all truth.
  
  Luke 5:4,10 - Jesus instructs Peter to let down the nets for a catch, and the miraculous catch follows. Peter, the Pope, is the "fisher of men."

  June 11 at 12:47am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Now here is my question....If you are a Bible believing Christian...and you believe that the Bible is inerrant Word of God....do you agree that The Bible are created by fallible men, made Stewards of God's word?
  
  Next is what is the Pillar and ground of truth? The Church or the Bible?

  June 11 at 12:50am ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Addendum....regarding babbling prayers, I think speaking in tongues are more a like a babbling....
  
  plus @Ady The Church canonize the Bible with the power to bind and loose.... Jews held Jesus to die on the cross with the help of occupying Romans....plus should I as a true Christian hate the Romans? How about Cornelius and his household?
  
  Study well my pamangkin....you already lost a vital information....

  June 11 at 12:18pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Plus, me out of context? hmmmm really? Who among you two took a verse in the Bible and interpret it as Babbling without realizing the whole complexity of Scripture?

  June 11 at 12:20pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo Judgmental? Everyone is entitled to his personal opinion...Now regarding my comment... I would be Biblical correct than Politically polite. Plus, this man really never lose...he only lost the title but his money? I don't think so.... Now he's game contribute to some Filipinos to gamble and waste their money to this insignificant person.

  June 11 at 12:24pm ·
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  Archie Gene Gallardo ‎@Ady Please learn logic....yung argument mo butas butas....

  June 11 at 12:25pm ·