A discourse chat from an Evangelical

A discourse chat from an Evangelical

Beatrice Ulli December 16 at 9:28am Report

askin if there is only one Holy Spirit

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Archie Gene Gallardo December 16 at 10:04am

yes there is Only one.

Beatrice Ulli December 16 at 10:23am Report

So then r we supposed to pray to only One Holy Spirit

Archie Gene Gallardo December 16 at 10:27am

If I would follow your theme: Yes, even in the Catholic Church, we asked and pray with/for the Holy Spirit. And we also asked people of God in heaven to pray in behalf of us.

Why do you asked?

Beatrice Ulli December 16 at 11:42am Report

Becoz in the spirit world there is only One Holy Spirit. All the other spirits in heaven will be resurrect when Jesus returns. That is why the Lord told us to pray to only One Holy Spirit

Archie Gene Gallardo December 16 at 7:46pm

How can spirits in heaven will be resurrect? Is that a literal?

Archie Gene Gallardo December 16 at 7:48pm

Addendum,

If they are already in heaven, and Jesus will come from heaven. Is it redundancy of account?

Is that belief that you said was also shared in 1 century or 2 century Christians?

Beatrice Ulli December 17 at 3:52am Report

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

Beatrice Ulli December 17 at 3:53am Report

1 Corinthians 15:20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep

Archie Gene Gallardo December 17 at 9:41am

Beatrice, there is a problem in 1Thessalonians 4:16 and your words...

You said: All the other spirits a IN HEAVEN will be resurrect when Jesus returns.

1 Thess. 4:16 does not contain it. It says DEAD in Christ. Meaning people who died in the Gospel.

1 Corinthians 15:20 No connection to your claim at all. Yes, we Catholics agree with the verse that Jesus is the first fruit, but it did not support your claim.

Beatrice Ulli December 18 at 2:00am Report

"But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope." (1 Th 4:13)

Archie Gene Gallardo December 18 at 12:57pm

Your insights are new and NOT shared by early Christians...Such a way Saint Paul says about your kind:

But even if we or an angel* from heaven should proclaim to you a gospel contrary to what we proclaimed to you, let that one be accursed! (Galatians 1:8)

And since you start believing in the Holy Spirit in which we Christians do believe, but you twitch every scripture and add self proclaimed truth. Saint James whom your father of lies (Martin Luther - started Protestantism) called a "Epistle of Straw" wrote about your kind; such faith was shared by the Demons.

"You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder"... (James 2:19)

Our Holy Tradition taught us since then ALL what the Church taught was sealed by the Holy Spirit. Through HEARING the word of truth we gain Hope, of everlasting life.

"In him you also, when you had heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and had believed in him, were marked with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit" (Ephesians 1:13)

You and your kind create NEW human doctrines. and not according to what the Apostles taught through the Holy Traditions. Saint Paul is right when he said:

"Now we command you, beloved,* in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from believers who are* living in idleness and not according to the tradition that they* received from us"

(2 Thessalonians 3:6)